<style>
/* Changing the layout to use less space for mobiles */
@media screen and (max-device-width: 480px), screen and (-webkit-min-device-pixel-ratio: 2) {
    #email-body { min-width: 30em !important; }
    #email-page { padding: 8px !important; }
    #email-banner { padding: 8px 8px 0 8px !important; }
    #email-avatar { margin: 1px 8px 8px 0 !important; padding: 0 !important; }
    #email-fields { padding: 0 8px 8px 8px !important; }
    #email-gutter { width: 0 !important; }
}
</style>
<div id="email-body">
<table id="email-wrap" align="center" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="background-color:#f0f0f0;color:#000000;width:100%;">
    <tr valign="top">
        <td id="email-page" style="padding:16px !important;">
            <table align="center" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="background-color:#ffffff;border:1px solid #bbbbbb;color:#000000;width:100%;">
                <tr valign="top">
                    <td bgcolor="#003366" style="background-color:#003366;color:#ffffff;font-family:Arial,FreeSans,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:1;"><img src="http://jira.qos.ch/s/en_USet69y6/731/19/_/jira-logo-scaled.png" alt="" style="vertical-align:top;" /></td>
                </tr><tr valign="top">
    <td id="email-banner" style="padding:32px 32px 0 32px;">

                
        
        
            <table align="left" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%" style="width:100%;">
    <tr valign="top">
        <td style="color:#505050;font-family:Arial,FreeSans,Helvetica,sans-serif;padding:0;">
                                        <img id="email-avatar" src="http://jira.qos.ch/secure/useravatar?avatarId=10122" alt="" height="48" width="48" border="0" align="left" style="padding:0;margin: 0 16px 16px 0;" />
                        <div id="email-action" style="padding: 0 0 8px 0;font-size:12px;line-height:18px;">
                                    <a class="user-hover" rel="geocode" id="email_geocode" href="http://jira.qos.ch/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name=geocode" style="color:#326ca6;">Geoff Ruscoe</a>
     commented on <img src="http://jira.qos.ch/images/icons/issue_subtask.gif" height="16" width="16" border="0" align="absmiddle" alt="Sub-task"> <a style='color:#326ca6;text-decoration:none;' href='http://jira.qos.ch/browse/LOGBACK-717'>LOGBACK-717</a>
            </div>
                        <div id="email-summary" style="font-size:16px;line-height:20px;padding:2px 0 16px 0;">
                <a style='color:#326ca6;text-decoration:none;' href='http://jira.qos.ch/browse/LOGBACK-717'><strong>If no config file is found, no debug info is printed out, even with logback.debug=true sys prop</strong></a>
            </div>
                    </td>
    </tr>
</table>
    </td>
</tr>
<tr valign="top">
    <td id="email-fields" style="padding:0 32px 32px 32px;">
        <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="padding:0;text-align:left;width:100%;" width="100%">
            <tr valign="top">
                <td id="email-gutter" style="width:64px;white-space:nowrap;"></td>
                <td>
                    <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%">
                        <tr valign="top">
    <td colspan="2" style="color:#000000;font-family:Arial,FreeSans,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12px;padding:0 0 16px 0;width:100%;">
        <div class="comment-block" style="background-color:#edf5ff;border:1px solid #dddddd;color:#000000;padding:12px;">I would like to add that the small amount of logging on initialization should probably be on by default.  I could have saved several ours debugging the logging in an ear project on glassfish had it been printing the debug output on startup.  I think we should seriously consider having that the default.  If no logback.xml configuration can be found then it should at the bare minimum print out all of that debugging information to stdout or stderr.  I believe this would be the best fix for this and the related issues.</div>
        <div style="color:#505050;padding:4px 0 0 0;">                </div>
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</tr>
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        </td><!-- End #email-page -->
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    <tr valign="top">
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</table><!-- End #email-wrap -->
</div><!-- End #email-body -->