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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=DA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think the primary focus for this facility has been raw speed. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In my understanding the primary usage of positional is to be able to translate sentences more fluently into another human language. This is normally not necessary for log statements, as you are fully in control of both message and arguments. What would your use case be?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> logback-user-bounces@qos.ch [mailto:logback-user-bounces@qos.ch] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Brett Walker<br><b>Sent:</b> 8. februar 2013 00:51<br><b>To:</b> logback users list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [logback-user] commons-logging -> sl4j -> logback<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU>It’s may bad. {} is the only syntax allowed<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU>It would be a nice addition to have positional, but how warranted is it?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU>Brett<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:logback-user-bounces@qos.ch">logback-user-bounces@qos.ch</a> [<a href="mailto:logback-user-bounces@qos.ch">mailto:logback-user-bounces@qos.ch</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Harkness<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 8 February 2013 10:46 AM<br><b>To:</b> logback users list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [logback-user] commons-logging -> sl4j -> logback<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU>On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Brett Walker <<a href="mailto:brett.walker@geometryit.com" target="_blank">brett.walker@geometryit.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU>This avoids calling the toString() method on the objects until the log message is actually required to be logged.<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU><br>Sorry, Brett, I changed the subject without actually changing the subject since it was semi-related. :) I was asking about "{0}" versus "{}".<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU>David<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>