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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Nice discussion.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Goes further than I had thought. This pushes efficiency even further. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I like it.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> logback-user-bounces@qos.ch [mailto:logback-user-bounces@qos.ch] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Pratt<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 8 February 2013 10:54 AM<br><b>To:</b> logback users list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [logback-user] commons-logging -> sl4j -> logback<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>I have a bit of a discussion on why a more robust formatting option is desirable. Check out <a href="http://code.google.com/p/anodyzed/wiki/Log">http://code.google.com/p/anodyzed/wiki/Log</a><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>and please feel free to ask any questions that come to mind.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> (*Chris*)<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Brett Walker <<a href="mailto:brett.walker@geometryit.com" target="_blank">brett.walker@geometryit.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>It’s may bad. {} is the only syntax allowed<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>It would be a nice addition to have positional, but how warranted is it?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Brett<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:logback-user-bounces@qos.ch" target="_blank">logback-user-bounces@qos.ch</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:logback-user-bounces@qos.ch" target="_blank">logback-user-bounces@qos.ch</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Harkness<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 8 February 2013 10:46 AM</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><b>To:</b> logback users list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [logback-user] commons-logging -> sl4j -> logback<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Brett Walker <<a href="mailto:brett.walker@geometryit.com" target="_blank">brett.walker@geometryit.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>This avoids calling the toString() method on the objects until the log message is actually required to be logged.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br>Sorry, Brett, I changed the subject without actually changing the subject since it was semi-related. :) I was asking about "{0}" versus "{}".<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>David<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>_______________________________________________<br>Logback-user mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Logback-user@qos.ch">Logback-user@qos.ch</a><br><a href="http://mailman.qos.ch/mailman/listinfo/logback-user" target="_blank">http://mailman.qos.ch/mailman/listinfo/logback-user</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>