[logback-dev] Logback PR #352: Add appender for TestNG Reporter

Wed Jan 18 01:08:02 CET 2017

The TestNG Reporter appender has now been published to Maven Central.

artifact: https://search.maven.org/#search%7Cga%7C1%7Csbabcoc

project: https://github.com/sbabcoc/logback-testng

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logback-testng - Logback appender for TestNG Reporter

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From: logback-dev <logback-dev-bounces at qos.ch> on behalf of Ceki Gülcü <ceki at qos.ch>
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 11:08 AM
To: logback developers list
Subject: Re: [logback-dev] Logback PR #352: Add appender for TestNG Reporter

I would recommend publishing com.github.sbabcock:logback-testng in Maven
Central. See [1]

Otherwise, an example logback.xml file with ReporterAppender would be
useful.

[1] http://central.sonatype.org/pages/ossrh-guide.html
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On 1/12/2017 19:06, Scott Babcock wrote:
> Thanks for the reply. I've created a repository for the companion
> appender project at https://github.com/sbabcoc/logback-testng. I still
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> need to create a README for this project, but it's in a usable state.
>
>
> I'm a relative newcomer to open-source software development. Besides a
> README file, what other documentation should I include with this
> project? Also, should I produce official releases of the associated JAR
> file? If so, where can I find detailed descriptions of this process?
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* logback-dev <logback-dev-bounces at qos.ch> on behalf of Ceki Gülcü
> <ceki at qos.ch>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 12, 2017 1:22 AM
> *To:* logback developers list
> *Subject:* Re: [logback-dev] Logback PR #352: Add appender for TestNG
> Reporter
>
>
> I agree that with hindsight the inclusion of DBAppender in Logback might
> have been a mistake. If it were today, it probably would have not made
> the cut.
>
> My offer to reference ReporterAppender from logback's web-site still
> stands.
>
> On 1/12/2017 7:08, Scott Babcock wrote:
>> The set of appenders provided by the main Logback project includes
>> implementations for nine vendor-specific database products. The target
>> audience for each of these database appenders is significantly smaller
>> than the target audience for the TestNG  Reporter appender provided by
>> this PR.
>>
>>
>> In a recent survey of dependency references in GitHub, the TestNG
>> library comes in at #20 on the list of the top 100 most frequently used
>> libraries. The only database flavor that comes close to this level of
>> popularity is MySQL, which came in at #26. HSQL comes in at #54, and the
>> remaining SQL flavors didn't make it onto the Top 100 list.
>>
>>
>> I can migrate the TestNG Reporter appender to a companion project
>> without the need to duplicate core unit test classes, by adding a
>> "test-jar" dependency to my Maven project. While this is functional,
>> it's less than ideal, as it makes this appender more difficult for
>> potential users to find.
>>
>>
>> Does any of these factors tip the balance in favor of incorporating this
>> new appender into the main Logback project?
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* logback-dev <logback-dev-bounces at qos.ch> on behalf of Ceki Gülcü
>> <ceki at qos.ch>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 11, 2017 1:00 PM
>> *To:* logback developers list
>> *Subject:* Re: [logback-dev] Logback PR #352: Add appender for TestNG
>> Reporter
>>
>> Hi Scoot,
>>
>> Thank you for posting your question on this list.
>>
>> ReporterAppender is probably not useful enough for a wider audience. As
>> such, I do not think it is advisable to incorporate it into logback proper.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> --
>> Ceki
>>
>> On 1/11/2017 21:29, Scott Babcock wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>>
>>> My PR #352 (https://github.com/qos-ch/logback/pull/352) was closed,
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Add appender for TestNG Reporter by sbabcoc · Pull Request #352 · qos-ch/logback<https://github.com/qos-ch/logback/pull/352>
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This appender posts its output to the TestNG Reporter.

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Add appender for TestNG Reporter by sbabcoc · Pull Request #352 · qos-ch/logback<https://github.com/qos-ch/logback/pull/352>
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This appender posts its output to the TestNG Reporter.

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> Add appender for TestNG Reporter by sbabcoc · Pull Request #352 ·
> qos-ch/logback <https://github.com/qos-ch/logback/pull/352>
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Add appender for TestNG Reporter by sbabcoc · Pull Request #352 · qos-ch/logback<https://github.com/qos-ch/logback/pull/352>
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This appender posts its output to the TestNG Reporter.

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> This appender posts its output to the TestNG Reporter.
>
>
>
>>> stating that it’s not generic enough. Given that TestNG is the most
>>> widely used Java testing framework in the world, how much more generic
>>> does a Logback logger need to be for it to be included in the mainline
>>> project?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The primary challenge with spinning this up as a separate project is
>>> that much of the basic building blocks for developing loggers and unit
>>> tests haven’t been defined or published in a form that facilitates
>>> extension and importation of these existing declarations. Consequently,
>>> it’s necessary to duplicate a significant volume of the implementation
>>> from the mainline project into the companion logger project. This is
>>> terribly inefficient and exposes the external project to the risk of
>>> breakage as revisions are applied to the mainline project that aren’t
>>> automatically picked up by the companion project.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please advise.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> = Scott Babcock =
>>>
>>>
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