At 20:17 5/1/2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: >i wonder whether it's actually necessary to have any committers (in the >apache sense). i've been wondering whether we could learn from the >process that created SAX. I am unfamiliar with the process that created SAX. Care to expand? -- Ceki Gülcü The complete log4j manual: http://www.qos.ch/log4j/