[slf4j-dev] Re: slf4j and log4j

[Curt Arnold]

> robert burrell donkin robertburrelldonkin at blueyonder.co.uk
> Sun May 1 22:36:18 CEST 2005
>
> On Sun, 2005-05-01 at 20:44 +0200, Ceki Gülcü wrote:
> > At 20:17 5/1/2005, robert burrell donkin wrote:
> > >i wonder whether it's actually necessary to have any committers (in 
> the
> > >apache sense). i've been wondering whether we could learn from the
> > >process that created SAX.
> >
> > I am unfamiliar with the process that created SAX. Care to expand?
>
> (i'm not an expert but) i believe SAX was developed by consensus on the
> xml-dev mailing list. http://www.saxproject.org/sax1-history.html seems
> to be the official history. i suppose that it'd be possible to browse
> the list archives. (if there are any lurker's who know more, now would
> be a good time to jump in...)

Funny you should ask.  I wasn't a lurker when you posted this, but have 
just subscribed and will try to follow the discussions.  I was not 
directly involved in the development of SAX, but I was a contributor to 
xml-dev's XSchema effort a few months later (later DDML, 
http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/NOTE-ddml-19990119) which had a lot of the 
same people and a continuation of the roughly the same process.  
Everything XML was fairly new, experimental and rapidly involving at 
that time, so compatibility with existing code was not a significant 
issue.  The "process" was very informal and lightweight, the editors 
(at least David Megginson but there may have been others) would through 
a new draft on a web site (probably megginson.com, but maybe others), 
there would be a flurry of emails back and forth over the next week or 
so and then the editors would condense the good ideas and post another 
draft.  I don't recall any voting, the editor(s) pretty much had 
complete control but they and the project could be ignored at will.  
The SAX and XSchema discussions were only one of many threads on the 
xml-dev mailing list and almost anyone seriously interested in XML was 
subscribed to xml-dev, so even if you were not particularly interested 
in SAX or XSchema, you saw the messages and could chime in if anything 
caught your attention.