[slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1318 - slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages

Ceki Gulcu ceki at qos.ch
Fri Apr 24 11:10:30 CEST 2009


As in revision 1325, the mention of logback is quiet discreet. I will not bend 
backwards and avoid mentioning logback just to prove that SLF4J provides a 
neutral playing field. I do not wish to start a debate about morality.

BTW, have you actually looked at 1325?

Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen wrote:
> Ceki Gulcu skrev:
>>
>>
>> Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen wrote:
>>
>>> As such I see no reason not to promote logback - you just need to 
>>> communicate very clearly that you are advertising for some other 
>>> software that happens to have been written by you.  IMHO that is 
>>> better than the official slf4j text is biased instead of neutral.
>>
>> It is a question of balance. While over-publicizing logback within the
>> context of SLF4J may be unwarranted, I think discreetly mentioning
>> logback as direct implementation of SLF4J, as is done in revision 1325
>> [1], strikes a reasonable balance. Logback is after all the only
>> direct implementation of SLF4J and deserves credit for that.
> 
> I humbly disagree, and "deserves credit for that" feels more like 
> boasting than providing neutral information (as you happen to have 
> written both pieces of software AND the manual providing the link).
> 
> Frankly I think you would be best of by plainly mentioning that you 
> wrote both and that *you* think that logback is a good choice (perhaps 
> by listing a number of reasons).  Your current approach might be 
> considered sneaky for some,  who might even think that if you didn't say 
> THAT up front, what else have you chosen not to mention?
> 
> And again, _I'm_ fine with you giving logback all the credit it 
> deserves.  Just be frank about your attitude :)
> 

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Ceki Gülcü
Logback: The reliable, generic, fast and flexible logging framework for Java.
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