[slf4j-dev] svn commit: r1318 - slf4j/trunk/slf4j-site/src/site/pages

[Ceki Gulcu]

Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen wrote:
> I humbly disagree, and "deserves credit for that" feels more like 
> boasting than providing neutral information (as you happen to have 
> written both pieces of software AND the manual providing the link).

"Deserves credit" is the term I used in an email. It is not
necessarily a careful and accurate description of what is said in the
SLF4J manual, the text that actually matters most.

> Frankly I think you would be best of by plainly mentioning that you 
> wrote both and that *you* think that logback is a good choice (perhaps 
> by listing a number of reasons).  Your current approach might be 
> considered sneaky for some,  who might even think that if you didn't say 
> THAT up front, what else have you chosen not to mention?

Just read the text in 1325, if that is considered sneaky, then we'll
have to agree to disagree. It is beyond me how the text in 1325 can be
considered as sneaky.

> And again, _I'm_ fine with you giving logback all the credit it 
> deserves.  Just be frank about your attitude :)


Frank about my attitude? As mentioned in my previous message, I am
uninterested to play the "whiter than snow" game. The "whiter than
snow" game is where players, usually high-ranking officials,
politicians, members of clergy and religious figures at large, try to
live up to *very* high moral standards and somehow eventually end up
molesting little children, start needless wars, misuse tax-payers dime
for their own gain, or any combination thereof.

I am not saying that one should not have moral standards, but that
they should be targeted at normal humans-beings, not saints.

If 1325 is somehow unpalatable to you, then please propose a new
revision. Otherwise, let us move on.

-- 
Ceki Gülcü
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