[slf4j-user] Why 'simple' uses standard out?

[Alex Karasulu]

Ceki Gülcü wrote:

> Hi Alex,
>
> It looks like we have 3 people voicing 3 different opinions. :-)

Heh :).

I just realized I'm mistaken after Trustin's post.  I retract my first 
comment having been corrected.  I think all is good with the current 
behavoir. 

Cheers,
Alex

> Hi Kostis,
>
> Given that slf4j-simple.jar can easily be replaced by a another jar 
> offering fully-fledged logging functionality, does the output 
> destination of slf4j-simple.jar matter? In particular, I'd like to 
> return to the two reasons you put forth.
>
> > 1. It doesn't collide with console apps that utilize the standard out
> > for processing.
>
> OK. By collide you probably mean that it is possible to separate 
> logging output from application output intended for user interaction. 
> But don't both stderr and stdout end up on the console? It seems to me 
> that sending logging output to stderr separation would avoid 
> collisions, except if stderr was redirected to a file. Do you see 
> where I am getting at?
>
> > 2. It is the default of JDK and the Unix way (i believe for the 
> above reason) .
>
> Indeed, ConsoleHandler outputs by to stderr. By Unix, what system do 
> you have in mind? Syslog?
>