[logback-dev] Logback PR #352: Add appender for TestNG Reporter

Wed Jan 18 07:00:55 CET 2017

Well done.

Commit ff705cac [1] adds a link to 
https://github.com/sbabcoc/logback-testng from the logback downloads 
page. The link will become visible on the web-site with the next release 
of logback.

--
Ceki
[1] https://github.com/qos-ch/logback/commit/ff705cac

On 1/18/2017 1:08, Scott Babcock wrote:
> The TestNG Reporter appender has now been published to Maven Central.
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> artifact: https://search.maven.org/#search%7Cga%7C1%7Csbabcoc
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> project: https://github.com/sbabcoc/logback-testng
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> <https://github.com/sbabcoc/logback-testng>
> 	
> sbabcoc/logback-testng <https://github.com/sbabcoc/logback-testng>
> github.com
> logback-testng - Logback appender for TestNG Reporter
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> *From:* logback-dev <logback-dev-bounces at qos.ch> on behalf of Ceki Gülcü
> <ceki at qos.ch>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 12, 2017 11:08 AM
> *To:* logback developers list
> *Subject:* Re: [logback-dev] Logback PR #352: Add appender for TestNG
> Reporter
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>
> I would recommend publishing com.github.sbabcock:logback-testng in Maven
> Central. See [1]
>
> Otherwise, an example logback.xml file with ReporterAppender would be
> useful.
>
> [1] http://central.sonatype.org/pages/ossrh-guide.html
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> On 1/12/2017 19:06, Scott Babcock wrote:
>> Thanks for the reply. I've created a repository for the companion
>> appender project at https://github.com/sbabcoc/logback-testng. I still
> <https://github.com/sbabcoc/logback-testng>
> 	
> sbabcoc/logback-testng <https://github.com/sbabcoc/logback-testng>
> github.com
> logback-testng - Logback appender for TestNG Reporter
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>
>> need to create a README for this project, but it's in a usable state.
>>
>>
>> I'm a relative newcomer to open-source software development. Besides a
>> README file, what other documentation should I include with this
>> project? Also, should I produce official releases of the associated JAR
>> file? If so, where can I find detailed descriptions of this process?
>>
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>> *From:* logback-dev <logback-dev-bounces at qos.ch> on behalf of Ceki Gülcü
>> <ceki at qos.ch>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 12, 2017 1:22 AM
>> *To:* logback developers list
>> *Subject:* Re: [logback-dev] Logback PR #352: Add appender for TestNG
>> Reporter
>>
>>
>> I agree that with hindsight the inclusion of DBAppender in Logback might
>> have been a mistake. If it were today, it probably would have not made
>> the cut.
>>
>> My offer to reference ReporterAppender from logback's web-site still
>> stands.
>>
>> On 1/12/2017 7:08, Scott Babcock wrote:
>>> The set of appenders provided by the main Logback project includes
>>> implementations for nine vendor-specific database products. The target
>>> audience for each of these database appenders is significantly smaller
>>> than the target audience for the TestNG  Reporter appender provided by
>>> this PR.
>>>
>>>
>>> In a recent survey of dependency references in GitHub, the TestNG
>>> library comes in at #20 on the list of the top 100 most frequently used
>>> libraries. The only database flavor that comes close to this level of
>>> popularity is MySQL, which came in at #26. HSQL comes in at #54, and the
>>> remaining SQL flavors didn't make it onto the Top 100 list.
>>>
>>>
>>> I can migrate the TestNG Reporter appender to a companion project
>>> without the need to duplicate core unit test classes, by adding a
>>> "test-jar" dependency to my Maven project. While this is functional,
>>> it's less than ideal, as it makes this appender more difficult for
>>> potential users to find.
>>>
>>>
>>> Does any of these factors tip the balance in favor of incorporating this
>>> new appender into the main Logback project?
>>>
>>>
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>>> *From:* logback-dev <logback-dev-bounces at qos.ch> on behalf of Ceki Gülcü
>>> <ceki at qos.ch>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 11, 2017 1:00 PM
>>> *To:* logback developers list
>>> *Subject:* Re: [logback-dev] Logback PR #352: Add appender for TestNG
>>> Reporter
>>>
>>> Hi Scoot,
>>>
>>> Thank you for posting your question on this list.
>>>
>>> ReporterAppender is probably not useful enough for a wider audience. As
>>> such, I do not think it is advisable to incorporate it into logback proper.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ceki
>>>
>>> On 1/11/2017 21:29, Scott Babcock wrote:
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My PR #352 (https://github.com/qos-ch/logback/pull/352) was closed,
> <https://github.com/qos-ch/logback/pull/352>
> 	
> Add appender for TestNG Reporter by sbabcoc · Pull Request #352 ·
> qos-ch/logback <https://github.com/qos-ch/logback/pull/352>
> github.com
> This appender posts its output to the TestNG Reporter.
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>> <https://github.com/qos-ch/logback/pull/352>
> <https://github.com/qos-ch/logback/pull/352>
> 	
> Add appender for TestNG Reporter by sbabcoc · Pull Request #352 ·
> qos-ch/logback <https://github.com/qos-ch/logback/pull/352>
> github.com
> This appender posts its output to the TestNG Reporter.
>
>
>
>>
>> Add appender for TestNG Reporter by sbabcoc · Pull Request #352 ·
>> qos-ch/logback <https://github.com/qos-ch/logback/pull/352>
> <https://github.com/qos-ch/logback/pull/352>
> 	
> Add appender for TestNG Reporter by sbabcoc · Pull Request #352 ·
> qos-ch/logback <https://github.com/qos-ch/logback/pull/352>
> github.com
> This appender posts its output to the TestNG Reporter.
>
>
>
>> github.com
>> This appender posts its output to the TestNG Reporter.
>>
>>
>>
>>>> stating that it’s not generic enough. Given that TestNG is the most
>>>> widely used Java testing framework in the world, how much more generic
>>>> does a Logback logger need to be for it to be included in the mainline
>>>> project?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The primary challenge with spinning this up as a separate project is
>>>> that much of the basic building blocks for developing loggers and unit
>>>> tests haven’t been defined or published in a form that facilitates
>>>> extension and importation of these existing declarations. Consequently,
>>>> it’s necessary to duplicate a significant volume of the implementation
>>>> from the mainline project into the companion logger project. This is
>>>> terribly inefficient and exposes the external project to the risk of
>>>> breakage as revisions are applied to the mainline project that aren’t
>>>> automatically picked up by the companion project.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please advise.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> = Scott Babcock =
>>>>
>>>>
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